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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:11 pm 
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It's KR 3 that says 240 is the minimum for a univ. degree. I don't see the figure 280 or 290 there, but kind-of-everybody talks about that number (like the Dean and the head of the TO). I don't have my TVSz with me now, but I will check.

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Szigetva wrote:
Up to now I thought they have to have 240 alltogether. Now you make me anxious that I have been spreading false information..

Sorry for that though! But me I'm getting confused too. :?


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Could you name me the paragraph where I could read about the requirements for the students with two majors?
I really have to be on the safe side though, just imagine at the end of the 10th term, it turns out that I lack 40 credits (or in my case now only 20). For, if I have more than is needed thats ok, but what if I now assume 280+10 are enough and they prove me wrong at the "probable" end of my studies, thus I would be left 20 (or 40) credits short?:cry:

I have full trust in your advice Mr. Szigetvári (contrary to the TO staff by now) but i have to have some written proof, so that i can defend my case if necessary.
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ps: Eventually they are gonna make me even pay because i took too many "plus courses" although i only now realized that it was "useless"??? (in a creditcollecting sense :wink: )


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Bobi wrote:
Oh my!! Is this absolutely sure?

I read and interpret the TVSz. I'm sure this is what the TO also does, so I don't understand the confusion.
Bobi wrote:
So now it turns out that I collected some 20 credits sort of "in vain" ? So not 330 but only 280 (+ ret.+filo.+comp. skills+2 phisical edu.= 290)???
Taking courses is never in vain :).
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And the same goes for the ones with 1 major, if they are not doing pedagogy? That is they only need 200 credits (140+10+50) instead of 240?
Up to now I thought they have to have 240 alltogether. Now you make me anxious that I have been spreading false information...

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Oh my!! Is this absolutely sure?
As of today i believed (I were told at TO) that i have to replace the lost pedagogy credits (40) with something else (programmes and etc.)! :shock:

So now it turns out that I collected some 20 credits sort of "in vain" ? So not 330 but only 280 (+ ret.+filo.+comp. skills+2 phisical edu.= 290)???
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Thank you for enlightening me, :shock: even though it comes a tad late, but for that the TO is to blame (alas again :evil: )

And the same goes for the ones with 1 major, if they are not doing pedagogy? That is they only need 200 credits (140+10+50) instead of 240?


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ndf wrote:
I "only" ( :wink: ) have my 299 yet, and I will probably do the PEPSI next semester (and I want to specialise in AppLing). Is it worth taking up a metodology?
If you already have TKN-199, ANN-261, ANN-299 you can take ANN-462 and ANN-465. Else you can't. As for whether it's worth taking them now, you should ask DEAL people (also urge them to join the forum and answer such questions :)).

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Bobi wrote:
If one (with two majors) has to collect 330 credits, only 280 can be taken from the 2 majors. Of course there is the pedagogy training, but let's say the student is not interested in that.
If you're not interested in pedagogy and that sort of things, you cannot become a teacher, in which case you have to collect 280 credits. It's 330 only for teachers, and the extra 50 is fixed for them.
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And as a result could the 300xx count within this scenario as "közismereti tanegység" (common knowledge classes?) which are not "fee-bound"?

Yes, 300s can be counted as közismereti (general education, non-degree component, cf. http://seas3.elte.hu/seas/glossary.html#K ). To ease your and our life, take them with the ZAN code if there is one.

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I'm running out of 2xx courses, and I thinking about taking a Methodology course. I "only" ( :wink: ) have my 299 yet, and I will probably do the PEPSI next semester (and I want to specialise in AppLing). Is it worth taking up a metodology? (I'm hesitating espacially due to the fact that it is a 4xx course, and it seems to be quite distant...) :roll:

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Here i can only repeat myself: Great answering performance :!: :shock:

I see now. But one last thing: If one (with two majors) has to collect 330 credits, only 280 can be taken from the 2 majors. Of course there is the pedagogy training, but let's say the student is not interested in that.
Couldn't he/she take up say 34 instead of 24 credits from the 300xx courses, if he/she is more interrested in those?
And as a result could the 300xx count within this scenario as "közismereti tanegység" (common knowledge classes?) which are not "fee-bound"?

Off: By the way, the same problem with the german major, i dont know if i can take more "special classes" than it is absolutely required...

ps: I do try to inform myself, but most of the time my points are too specific for the Tvsz. :lol:


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And what if someone would like to collect more than the compulsory 24 credits? Would that be legitimate?

Taking much more credits than required is possible if you pay for it. Details can be found in the TVSz and other documents, I'm not prepared to give you exact data now. (You should also do some research yourself. :wink:)

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And can one take multiple different say 312 courses (e.g. 312.17 + 312.26)?
Sure. All your 300s may be 312 courses if you wish. Any two courses with codes consisting of different digits (or the same digits in different order) count as different courses, and can thus be taken together.

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And what if someone would like to collect more than the compulsory 24 credits? Would that be legitimate?

And can one take multiple different say 312 courses (e.g. 312.17 + 312.26)?

Thx for any info :!:


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20 for AKN sutdents. We were talking about ANN students (I hope). Anyway it is 24 for them.

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Weren't we supposed to take 20 credits in spec. courses? 24 is an absolutely new info for me. :shock:
At the begginning of the term I checked it and it was 20 (and the text stated that if we take 24 in one area then we will get that degree supplement)


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Ancsur2002 wrote:
I would like to ask about the 300-courses
Do we have to specialise or just take some of these courses.
How many do we need? (in credits/number of courses)

You have to collect 24 credits of which a maximum of 12 may be of lecture-type courses, i.e. 12 seminar courses @2 credits each, 6 seminars @2 and 4 lectures @3 credits each, or anything in between, but NOT, e.g., 6 lectures (@3) and 3 seminars (@2).

You can, but you do not have to specialize. If all 24 credits come from one of the 8 areas (listed here: http://seas3.elte.hu/seas/faq.html#8 ), you get a degree supplement.

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credits, but some only consist of 15 (for example Medieval English) What to do with that?

I don't know the source of this information but anyway it is wrong.

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And what does "D" mean after the course number? (for example ANN380D)

It means a Double course, i.e., not 2 but 4 hours per week. Just like ANN-313, 314, 323, 324, 343, 344 etc, but in the 370-380 region there weren't enough numbers to create such codes.

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Someone said that some spec. courses need Latin... is this true?

Not at SEAS. The Medieval English programme (not the specialization!) does require a course in Latin though.

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And what are ANN-492 and ANN-494 courses, how to take them? (I did not see them in the course catalogue)

They are the two tutorial seminars. When you write your thesis you will have a supervisor, who will have to give you two marks proving that you have satisfactorily cooperated with him/her. Each supervisor has a code, http://seas3.elte.hu/seas/studies/gradu ... isors.html , if your supervisor is Dr Bond (whose code is 007), you have to enter ANN-492.007 in one term and ANN-494.007 in another term, and Dr Bond has to give you a mark in each term. Forget this last bit about Bond, it has been changed.

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I will give details soon. Till then you may wish to read http://seas3.elte.hu/seas/studies/majors/english.html and http://seas3.elte.hu/seas/studies/majors/help.html
The curriculum is at http://seas3.elte.hu/seas/studies/majors/ANN.html
Some of the answers are there.

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