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Author:  tamasig [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Debate club Spring 2007

Dear Students and Fellow-Debaters,

After the exam period, the debate club will once again will have its regular meetings every Friday. Although the team and the atmosphere will stay the same (or even improve), there is a slight change in the time and the venue.

Following my transfer from DEAL to Eotvos College, the meetings of the debate club will be held in the building of the college; the address is 11-13 Menesi ut, Rm. 023.

Due to timetabling issues, the time has also been shifted from the early afternoon to a late afternoon slot: the meetings will take place at 16:30.

The first meeting is on this coming Friday, 16 Feb 2007.

Hope to see you there.

All the best,

TG

Author:  tamasig [ Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Blog: 13 Oct

Despite the fact that it was Friday 13th, things went pretty smoothly at the debate club today as well; however, we gave another format a try, and after the British parliamentary debate (4x2 speakers), we had a go with the American style (2x2 speakers) as well.

The motion for the day was the following:

"This house would prefer castration to incarceration of sexual offenders."

And it is needless to say that the topic brought a really good debate, which at times (not only in terms of arguments) was reminiscent of the good old capital punishment debates (deterrent effects, irreversibility, etc.).

To make things even better, Kati Brozik-Piniel of DEAL also agreed to help with the judging duties for the day, so the debaters (SEAS was represented!) got really thorough feedback on their argumentation and delivery skills. The audience was also impressed. :D

So, if you've been thinking whether you should come and at least watch a debate, don't hesitate! The next meeting of the club is on 20 October, 3 pm, in Rm. 235.

Hope to see you there,

TG

Author:  tamasig [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Blog: 6 Oct

I'm lagging behind somewhat with the blog, but it doesn't mean that the debate club failed to meet on Oct 6. This time the surprise guests (to make up for the laziness of the SEAS students) came from Australia and Germany, respectively, both language assistants at a secondary school in Budapest.

The motion for the day was that This house would automatically grant asylum to women trafficked for prostitution. Although I don't usually do so, I thought I might put down the main arguments put forward by the first proposition because the debate was rather extraordinary.

In British parliamentary debating, the First Proposition team (debating FOR the motion, i.e., that women SHOULD be given automatic asylum) has an obligation to establish a problem and propose a solution to the problem identified (the so-called plan). IMHO the strategy opted for by the First Proposition team was genuinely interesting.

The problem they identified was that in prosecuting prostitution cases, the wrong people are tried: on the one hand, it means that the women are forced into the situation; on the other, the real culprits behind the acts go unpunished. Therefore, they proposed, women should automatically be given asylum.

They defined "asylum" as 1) allowing the women to stay in camps and/or 2) extradite them only if they are given a guarantee they will not be tried for prostitution at home.

The next question proposition teams have to answer is: How does the plan eliminate the problem? Well, obviously, if the women are not tried, then following their argumentation, the innocent are not tried; furthermore, the women may then actually aid in catching the culprits (if they are given asylum in exchange). And so on...

If you'd like to share your thoughts on this topic here in the forum, please do so. Also, if you feel like watching and/or participating in a round on 13 Oct (Friday!), please do come along.

All the best in the meantime,

TG

Author:  tamasig [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Blog: 29 September

Another Friday and another debate club meeting. Today, much to my surprise, the Faculty of Arts was woefully underrepresented (shame), but quite a few students from the University of Economics dropped by to participate in the debate round.

The motion for the day was selected from among those debated at the European Universities Debating Championship: "This house believes that the European constitution should include reference to Europe's Christian heritage."

The debate itself focused on the issue of the role and purpose of the EU (is it an economic and/or political alliance, or does it need a moral link between its citizens) and if a moral link is needed, is it religion, the Christian cultural heritage or something else that is capable of filling the void (similarly to the common language in the US, or the party in China).

All in all, the afternoon brought a really fun debate with loads of interaction between the two sides, and after the brief critical evaluation of the debate round (which also featured a brief debate on argumentation theory), we set the time of the next meeting: 6 October 2006, 3pm. Rm. 235.

As always, if you're interested in watching a debate, please do come and do so. (Just make sure you drop me a line beforehand.)

TG

P.S. Calling on all arts students one more time: although one of the best speeches of the round was delivered by one of our students, we have to have our voice heard! We are planning to organize a tournament some time early November, and it'd be nice if the Faculty was represented there with at least one team.

Author:  tamasig [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Blog: First meeting

On 22 September, we had the first meeting of the debate club. The topic discussed was the all-too-controversial "This house believes that social injustice justifies violence", which brought a surprisingly good debate. The debate featured talented students from the Faculty and the Technical University of Budapest, former high-school debaters and those who attended the introductory seminar at SEAS.

If interested in watching a debate, please do not hesitate to contact me and/or come to the next meeting on 29 September at 3pm in Rm. 235.

TG

Author:  tamasig [ Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  DEBATE CLUB (re)launched

To whom it may concern

All those who previously attended the AN(N)-204/X introductory debate course and/or are familiar with the British Parliamentary debate format are welcome to join the debate club at SEAS.

Meetings: Fri 15:00-16:30 in ADs Rm. 235

For an overview of the format, see http://clubs.anu.edu.au/clubs/Debating_ ... oad/BP.doc

If interested, please drop me a line.

Hope to see you there.

TG

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